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12-14-2007, 03:29 PM
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#51 (permalink)
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Status: Junior Altiris Admin
Join Date: 06-16-2006
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 11
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Category Layout.
I can't believe I didn't see it in here (maybe it was and I missed it), but isn't anyone else concerned that the current layout of categories is basically a text based match? IE, it's not broken down into any tables or anything. They are just run together text strings that use a split function. This makes it very inflexible. A good example of changing the structure of the way cat's are stored would be per role visibility. IE, "Visible to Guest". There are a LOT of cat's that we simply want to keep in there for IT reasons, but the "guest" cat's should be easy. A good example would be something like:
Public Cat: "Break-Fix / Unable to access Internet.
Private Cat: Break-Fix / BGP Peer / Outage
Or something like that. The user will report a certain symptom but the actual cause would be something IT would set later. The user wouldn't have a clue what a BGP peer was. To them their Internet access is down.
Also, by changing the way the cat's are stored will allow you to make rules that are independent of the wording. An example of this is we have a bunch of rules that we would now like to shift from being under "break-fix" to something like "IT Only". To do this means we have to change every rule we have in the system because it is text based matching. Break-Fix / Internet != IT Only / Break-Fix / Internet. It's a pain to move cat's around and keep the rules intact. If these were based on basically a GUID per rule, where it was stored would make no difference. All the rules could be moved without messing up any back-end rules.
Of course, maybe I'll get lucky though it appears Altiris has been trying to release a "new" version of the helpdesk since like 2005. 3 years or missed releases is pretty bad IMHO. I just hope they do better going forward because this product definately have a lot of good potential. It's just so inflexible.
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12-15-2007, 01:13 PM
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#52 (permalink)
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Join Date: 03-04-2005
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Hi DD,
Happy to hear I am not alone to fight for a better helpdesk. I have at least 3 calls a week with Altiris Support for issues, improvement, etc... and I hope most of them will be taken into account.
By having so many contacts with Altiris Support show them what is missing and what customers are expecting. We have finally got an answer how many customized environments are allowed: Altiris has tested with only three additional customized enviroments, so if you are over you are in an unknown world... I had 39 environments customized and finally after a week I was able o consolidate them to 8 which is still over but as we are using multiple queues per manager we need it anyway.
You could customize Helpdesk Solution BUT be sure you have Altiris Support involved or Professional Services from them or internally to manage this as the Support even great, as it has been for me for the past years, will not support too many environments and always ask us to remove all customizations before starting troubleshooting issues.
The border between what is supported and what is not is always an issue as it is allowed to customize but "it is not supported" in most case so this open window could be really dangerous ...
Thanks,
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